Monday, 4 September 2017

Ancestry's Genetic Communities and LivingDNA's Sub-regions

How do Ancestry's Genetic Communities correlate with LivingDNA's sub-regions?

The 300 Ancestry Genetic Communities are grouped by region and subregion. Six regions are in Europe. In the subregion in the United Kingdom & Ireland the following genetic communities are in England,Wales and Scotland. The counties listed under each genetic community are based on eyeballing the AncestryDNA maps.

English Newfoundlanders
Devon, Dorset, Somerset, Wiltshire, Hampshire, Gloucestershire, London.

Southern English: English in the Southwest Peninsula
Cornwall, Devon.

Southern English: English in the Southeast
Dorset, Hampshire, Sussex, Kent, Surrey, Berkshire, Middlesex, London, Essex, Herefordshire, Buckinghamshire.

Southern English: English in East Anglia and Essex
Norfolk, Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire, Essex.

Northern English
Lancashire, Yorkshire, Westmorland, Cumberland, Durham, Northumberland.
Adjacent Scotland - Berwickshire, Roxburghshire, Dumfriesshire, Kirkcudbrightshire. Isle of Man.

English Midlanders & Northerners: English in the East Midlands
Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Rutland, Leicestershire, Warwickshire.

English Midlanders & Northerners: English in the West Midlands and Northwest England
Lancashire, Cheshire, Staffordshire, Derbyshire, Shropshire.

The Welsh & English West Midlanders: English in the West Midlands
Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, Shropshire, Oxfordshire. Adjacent mid-Wales

The Welsh & English West Midlanders: North Wales
Flintshire, Denbighshire, Caernarfonshire, Anglesey, Merionethshire, Montgomeryshire. Adjacent England.

The Welsh & English West Midlanders: South Wales
Carmarthenshire, Glamorgan, Brecknockshire, Cardiganshire, Pembrokeshire, Monmouthshire (and other adjacent English counties).

Scots: Scots in Central Scotland the Ulster Ireland
Wigtownshire, Ayrshire, Kirkcudbrightshire, Dumfriesshire, Lanarkshire, Renfrewshire, Dumbartonshire.

Scots: Scots in Northeast and Central Scotland
Orkney, Caithness, Sutherland, Ross-shire and Cromartyshire, Nairnshire. Morayshire, Banffshire, Aberdeenshire, Kincardineshire, Angus, Perthshire, Fife, Kinross-shire, Clackmannanshire, Stirlingshire, West Lothian, Lanarkshire, Dumbartonshire, Renfrewshire

Scots: Scots in the Highlands and Nova Scotia
Nairnshire, Inverness-shire, Ross-shire and Cromartyshire, Argyllshire

Scots: Scots in the Highlands and Eastern Nova Scotia
Inverness-shire, Ross-shire and Cromartyshire, Sutherland, Caithness.


LivingDNA divide Great Britain into the following regions with the approximate counties given by the company.

(approximately Aberdeenshire, Angus, Fife, Moray areas)

Central England
(approximately Warwickshire/Bedfordshire/Leicestershire/ Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire, Northamptonshire/ Staffordshire areas)


(approximately Cumbria, Dumfries and Galloway areas)


East Anglia
(approximately Norfolk/Suffolk/Cambrigeshire/Essex areas)

(approximately Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire areas)

North Wales
(approximately Powys/Ceredigion/Gwynedd/Conwy/Anglesey/Wrexham areas)

North Yorkshire
(approximately North Yorkshire/East Riding of Yorkshire areas)

North West England
(approximately Lancashire/Merseyside/Cheshire/Staffordshire areas)

North West Scotland
(approximately Highland/Argyll and Bute/Stirling/Perth and Kinross areas)

(approximately Northumberland/Tyne and Wear/Durham/Scottish Borders/Fife areas)


South Central England
(approximately Somerset/Wiltshire/Oxfordshire/Berkshire/Gloucestershire/ Warwickshire areas)

South East Central England (approximately Surrey/Sussex/Kent/London/ Hertfordshire/Essex)

South England
(approximately Dorset/Wiltshire/Hampshire and surrounding areas)

South West Scotland
(approximately Northern Ireland/Dumfries and Galloway/Ayrshire/Lanarkshire and surrounding areas)

South Wales Borders
(approximately Herefordshire/Worcestershire/Shropshire/W Midlands and surrounding areas)

South Wales
(approximately Pembrokeshire/Carmarthenshire/South Powys/Swansea/Glamorgan/Monmouthshire areas)

South Yorkshire
(approximately South Yorkshire/West Yorkshire areas)

Based on the counties here's how the two should correlate. If you've taken the tests with both companies does  any genetic community you have fall into the corresponding LivingDNA sub-region as indicated by an X?


Susan Gail Roger said...

Ancestry has assigned me two communities which largely overlap: The Welsh & English West Midlanders, and English Midlanders & Northerners. My two top regions for Living DNA are Central England at 27.4%, and South Wales at 17.3%. So I guess that's a reasonable correlation.

Wendy Croome said...

My first Ancestry community is English in the West Midlands. In Living DNA my major region (55.5%) is Central England. This is not one of your X boxes but it fits for me, because my paternal side comes from Staffordshire/ Warwickshire, and those 2 counties are included in the respective category for each company. My second Ancestry genetic community is not broken down as finely as your list of communities. Mine is called simply Southern English. Living DNA gives me small amounts of Devon, Cornwall, South England, and Southeast England - all included in Ancestry's map for Southern English. So I would say that my results from the 2 companies line up well.